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Leee John on Fame, Fans, and Future Projects: A Must-Watch for 80s Nostalgia!

• Nigel Clarkson / Leee John • Season 1 • Episode 34

🚨 Iconic 80s Star Leee John Talks Music, Touring, and Reinventing the Sound of Imagination! 🚨

Leee John, the flamboyant frontman of Imagination, is taking us down memory lane with the Flashback Tour—and he’s still as passionate as ever! In this exclusive chat, Leee shares his journey from Top of the Pops legend to pioneering new projects, while keeping a connection with die-hard fans. Expect exciting collabs, new music, and insights on how he keeps reinventing the game. 🎤✨

Forthcoming gigs:

Tickets for the LEEE JOHN (IMAGINATION) – October 2024 shows are available from: www.leeejohn.com

Tuesday 29th October            

MANCHESTER – Band on The Wall  

Tickets available from – https://bandonthewall.org/events/leee-john-imagination/

Prices from - £32.50

Doors – 7.30pm

Wednesday 30th October            

NEWCASTLE – The Grove  

Tickets available from – https://tickets.thegrovenewcastle.co.uk/.../leee-john.../

Prices from - £32.50

Doors – 7.30pm

For further information on LEEE JOHN of IMAGINATION, check out the following websites / social media links:

Website – https://www.leeejohn.com/

Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/LeeeJohn

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 0:07 imagination it's the flamboyant Lee John 0:12 okay on the show today on the S Showbiz 0:14 podcast welcome to Lee hello Lee hey how 0:18 you doing how's it going oh it's great 0:20 yeah it's great to have you on the show 0:21 as well thank you very much for spending 0:23 the time um great to see as well with 0:25 the flashback tour that you got on at 0:26 the moment because you're you're heading 0:28 towards Manchester first on 29th and 0:31 then you're going to Newcastle are you 0:32 looking forward to it oh definitely 0:35 definitely I mean my biggest fans are 0:36 all come out of London definitely up 0:38 north you know by Manchester Liverpool 0:40 means Newcastle all those areas they're 0:43 so die hard you know they're like um 0:46 like the northern Souls fans you know 0:47 they're very much into music the80s and 0:50 Imagination they know stuff that I don't 0:52 even remember you know are you going to 0:54 do s and you know that song you know the 0:56 point of no return or 0:58 something don't forget to singk than you 1:00 my love you know I get all these kind of 1:02 um things you know and um but but um 1:05 because I've been doing so many 1:06 different projects recently um I found 1:09 I've also got a new fan base I with the 1:11 because I did Gorilla song The Lost cool 1:14 and uh and that's brought me a sh new 1:16 generation of of uh you 1:19 know yeah yeah so we go back to the 80s 1:21 you know um you and imagination 1:23 imagination as well I mean I remember 1:25 you so big about every song of yours on 1:27 vinyl I'm lucky enough to be old enough 1:29 to remember all the ' 80s by the 1:31 way but yeah it was iconic music wasn't 1:34 it and uh you were one of the icons on 1:36 top of the pops as well always seen on 1:38 the show very flamboyant always an 1:41 Entertainer you've always stayed the 1:43 same haven't you well I love I love 1:45 performing and you know I was been it's 1:47 about the audience it's always been 1:48 about the audience and you know we had 1:50 some great times on top the PO Michael 1:52 Hill the producer he wanted us on he 1:55 didn't want to show the videos you know 1:56 he was say we do the videos it'd be in 1:58 the countdown The Rundown 2:00 but he wanted us there physically so 2:02 sometimes we'd be flying from Germany or 2:04 Italy or America to come back top the 2:07 pop show that's true seriously it was it 2:10 was a it was a lot of work it was a lot 2:13 a lot of work you know I remember 2:15 especially the first year um I remember 2:18 when we went to Italy into France we 2:20 were promoting The Body Talk album and 2:23 there were different hits around the 2:25 whole the whole Europe in particular 2:27 then America yeah in and out Flash back 2:30 so be so right burning up tell me my 2:32 love is number one in Canada uh so we 2:35 were like you know one album it was like 2:37 an off thewall situation every track was 2:40 a h record you know it was it was a 2:42 wonderful time yeah did everything go 2:44 very quickly for you then because it's 2:46 the beginning of the 80s when you first 2:47 got going wasn't it it was it was well 2:51 what happened is things stretched 2:52 because in those days you'd have one 2:54 record like body tour came out and it 2:56 would go on for I don't know months and 2:58 months and months and months then 3:00 came out and it gone months and months 3:02 but then we then had to go to another 3:03 country and promote the same record 3:05 right months later so in you know 81 3:09 they all came out by 82 you were still 3:11 promoting that and getting ready in the 3:13 UK to promote the second out so you 3:16 found by 8384 you were still promoting 3:18 product from way back it was not it 3:21 started I mean it's quicker now later 3:24 everything was a lot later and um you 3:27 know then we started touring of course 3:29 and doing shows and everything like that 3:30 and then you know it was like what was 3:32 that going to be like and bl and it was 3:34 it was just uh it was it was fast it was 3:37 quick but at the same time um there was 3:41 a we had to change quickly evolving so 3:44 and Technology was Chang you know using 3:47 sequences we started to use computers 3:49 but not as much as today but um you know 3:53 we we started very primitively you know 3:55 like we we pulled all our background 3:57 vocals and spin them in you know before 4:00 we started using samples yeah so was it 4:02 was a lot of analog work doing that it 4:05 was like but it it kind of I'm glad I 4:07 did do that because I learned you know 4:09 to to to stack my harmonies and and 4:12 blend them and really understand the 4:14 music side of things yeah because you 4:16 got an amazing voice range haven't you 4:18 yourself personally and and that's where 4:20 it all comes from the energy doesn't it 4:22 comes from your voice I think well you 4:24 know we had I mean Tony Swain was one of 4:27 the producers on of St jolly um and you 4:30 know we we never it wasn't like um you 4:34 should do this or you should do that it 4:35 was always an equal um combination in 4:38 the studio you know and uh as a main 4:41 writer so when I was writing things you 4:44 know I collaborate with Steve and i' 4:45 been Ashley in um and so it was very 4:48 organic you know it was like you 4:50 couldn't just write for imagination yeah 4:53 you had to be part of that um that you 4:56 know our our family so speak some people 5:00 say oh I've got a song for you you 5:02 really be good you know I remember 5:03 somebody sent me a track called body 5:05 love right after we had in and out of 5:07 love and body someone said body love and 5:09 I 5:10 thought come on you 5:13 know yeah it was like it was crazy but 5:15 it was it was a wonderful period and 5:18 it's great that the fans have stuck with 5:19 us through the years that's that's been 5:21 the main thing so that's why we come to 5:23 Manchester New Castle to do that thing 5:25 excellent because you went to America 5:27 for a bit didn't you as a as a teenager 5:29 you came back to London did you pick up 5:31 a a lot of you know ideas from America 5:33 when you were there and thought Oh I 5:35 want to get back to the 5:37 UK oh my God I mean it was uh my parents 5:40 split so I ended up going to America 5:42 with my dad and it was a very 5:44 interesting per it was a period of 5:46 change in America especially for black 5:48 music so I was there the beginning of it 5:50 when it you had Motown going there 5:53 Stacks going and you had um on TV you 5:56 saw all black faces and it was I was 5:58 like oh my go in England I didn't see 6:00 that as a kid you know I left hearing I 6:03 think um Bonnie and Clyde by Georgie F 6:06 or something like that yeah it was it 6:08 that's my memories and and pop it on a 6:11 stream you know and that was my memory I 6:14 came back and I was into the my goodness 6:17 oh gosh was into I was 6:19 into The Persuasions the persuaders um 6:24 oh um Isaac Hayes and really heavy stuff 6:28 and I was like still in 6:30 14 or something yeah I I was influenced 6:33 by so much um and uh and I just digested 6:38 it all and I was I was as an early 6:40 teenag I was very quiet I was observing 6:42 I one of those people that did you 6:44 know do routines in my bedroom and 6:47 things like that because my cousins when 6:49 we broke out his imagination in America 6:52 they were astounded they didn't know who 6:53 is this person they thought you know CU 6:56 my one of my main cousins in America 6:58 John him and his Brothers they used to 7:00 do all the Jackson Fire movements been 7:02 watching them and eating it all up and 7:03 they would they would do the love you 7:05 save and ABC and they' do it really and 7:07 they were like you know James Brown 7:09 stuff and I was watching checking it you 7:13 had your own unique flavor didn't you I 7:15 mean imagination's unique isn't it I 7:18 mean it's a unique sound as well that 7:19 you brought back I suppose and then you 7:21 went with that did you have a plan to do 7:22 the band when you were when you came 7:24 back you think is oh that's what I'm 7:25 going to do or did you not have really 7:26 have a plan at all well I was part of a 7:29 Duo when I was in in school and U we got 7:32 signed to Emi records was called Russ 7:34 and Lee yeah and I did my ex ebody 7:37 asking why I was ask you that thank you 7:42 thank you so you know it was um and the 7:45 manager we had managed the David bwii 7:48 band spiders of Mars they just split and 7:51 uh he was looking for people on you know 7:54 on the record table so you know we 7:57 actually it's like a Hollywood one of 7:58 those Hollywood we were actually in the 8:00 lobby of Emi because we've gone to all 8:03 these different companies and we been 8:05 writing all our little songs and stuff 8:07 yeah and he looked at this guy and he 8:09 had the glasses and the briefcase and 8:11 you know the 8:12 jacket manager he looks like a manager 8:14 you know yeah yeah so I said are you a 8:16 manager he said well yes actually yes 8:18 I'm come here because he asked what do 8:21 you do and I said you both said yeah you 8:22 sing so do you want us to sing now we 8:24 started to sing our own songs all the 8:27 secretaries everybody came down and 8:29 watched us perform brilliant in the 8:31 reception of Emi it was it was a classic 8:34 moment and he said you know I love your 8:36 energy I I've got to get to the studio 8:38 and and literally signed us wow nothing 8:43 happened it was a wonderful experience 8:46 we had Gonzalez remember Gonzalez yeah I 8:48 do haven't sto dancing yet yeah they 8:51 were the top session musicians at the 8:53 time so we had them on the rec um it a 8:57 track called get up part one part two 8:59 not the BR and we had um another track 9:02 we did that we wrote called One Life to 9:03 Live and thunder thighs with a backing 9:06 vocalist on the track thund thighs did 9:08 all the um they did backgrounds for LEDs 9:11 Walk on the Wild Side col girls 9:13 go you had them on the record so 9:16 brilliant there was great associations F 9:18 Chang played bass and he went off to 9:21 play with um Rod Stewart you know you 9:23 see him in do you think I'm sexy you 9:25 know yeah and so we're surrounded by all 9:28 this stuff we may Studios and it was an 9:31 interesting time this is way way before 9:33 imagination yeah so I was that kid that 9:35 was always with the pette take running 9:38 to different and and by the time we 9:42 broke with imagination a lot of people 9:44 in the industry knew because they knew I 9:46 was that kid that was always I got a 9:48 track they said you're getting there 9:51 it's not there yet you know I had loads 9:53 and loads and loads of that you know um 9:57 you know in my catalog I've got these 9:59 Dem 9:59 and and stuff that I you know we had a 10:01 box set recently you know 4r anniversary 10:04 box I think I got it here yeah here we 10:08 go you can get it brilliant and 10:11 basically I put a lot of different um 10:15 tracks that as imagination and 10:18 myself that never been released and 10:20 stuff but there's a whole 10:22 Leon section of stuff that I did way 10:26 before that I I started doing a lot of 10:28 sessions 10:30 um I remember doing something for FB 10:33 records for Elvis costell's lady yeah 10:36 and I remember got paid so much money 10:38 that I managed to go and Hol there to 10:40 our island of St 10:43 Lucia but it was a very grounding period 10:46 because you know I was singing in 10:47 different bands um pubs and bingo halls 10:52 and they were fantastic audiences yeah 10:55 you know they were really great people 10:56 used to go out and enjoy themselves and 10:58 we do all sorts of 10:59 music so I I was kind of learning my you 11:02 know my learning my trade and um getting 11:05 ready for imagin I I was kind like 11:07 prepared yeah yeah so as a kid did you 11:11 have any favorite artists that you used 11:13 to really know home in on and think yeah 11:15 they're 11:16 brilliant oh the Motown sound of course 11:19 I love everybody on there you know um 11:22 goodness um Marvin stepen Diane s gream 11:27 and for got to me I became very good 11:30 friends with Mary we'll see The Supremes 11:31 you know when she come she ring me and 11:34 hang out together and uh you know I've 11:37 got some meat Berry G and stuff oh my 11:39 God your Idols you 11:41 know crazy and but I also love jazz and 11:44 I loved um I remember in New York that 11:49 vion thing I saw lady s the blues B I 11:52 didn't know even she was am Supremes 11:54 that's how out of I just knew singer 11:57 Billy holiday and I read the book and 11:59 then I started to um listen to people 12:02 like Sarah war and Gerald sachman and 12:06 Bessie Smith and I just got into all of 12:08 that and then I came forward and I got 12:10 into the whole Jazz Spar and I love war 12:13 the band called war and I see them play 12:16 and then think one of the very first 12:18 shows I saw was um Stevie Wonder at the 12:21 Rainbow Theater right and that 12:24 influenced me so strongly because it was 12:26 it was a long show yeah and everybody 12:29 was there I said for c c allans and you 12:34 know I was still a kid you know and that 12:37 really influenced me because the 12:38 musicality was there the Showmanship was 12:41 there um I was you know I have have very 12:45 organic sense of things that I I 12:48 attached myself to you know I saw b 12:50 Marley the um the rainbow yeah famous 12:54 album I think he done there and at the 12:57 Lum um and in that time so many American 13:01 act used to come to the UK and we would 13:04 just eat them all up we'd go and see 13:06 everybody you know like seriously you 13:09 know there's a place called The Venue no 13:11 it's not the ven sorry the new Victoria 13:13 Theater yeah um in Victoria and for 13:17 example La frankon came there I think in 13:19 1980 and she did backtack two shows 13:23 literally two shows and you know we stay 13:25 for both you know and and a lot of other 13:28 artists did that and then there was a 13:30 place called a venue across the globe 13:32 and we saw Marvin G there and uh and 13:36 eventually we um met Marvin in Los 13:39 Angeles when we Soul Trend yeah ended up 13:42 singing in this rest room to him you 13:44 know W moments I've had I would say I've 13:47 had so many many magical moments so it's 13:51 everything's hopefully if I get that 13:53 time to do this book I'm still working 13:55 on some of my film projects right tring 13:57 to get that finished and then get on to 14:01 the book situation so you never stop you 14:03 seem to keep going all the time you 14:05 could never give it I could see you ever 14:06 retiring and just having all I love it 14:09 I'm I'm old school I mean you know some 14:12 friends of mine said oh um are you still 14:14 gonna you know I'm I'm thinking I came 14:16 into this industry because I loved it 14:18 you I and I was passionate about it and 14:21 I'm always finding new creative things 14:23 to do you know I'm doing a show um for 14:26 black is 2 month at the show theater I'm 14:28 doing a special 14:29 um speech and um it's it's significant 14:32 it's about none of you remember there 14:34 used to be a play called black Heroes 14:37 yeah it around the late 70s and 80s and 14:39 they Tau all of the UK to America so the 14:42 actual director and writer Fraser he's 14:46 uh they're doing his life so they've 14:48 asked me to participate within that 14:50 special moment so I I've said yes and 14:53 this is just before I come to Manchester 14:55 so they asked me to host the whole thing 14:57 and I thought no I can't take that all 14:59 too much my too much you 15:03 know so you do draw the line sometimes 15:05 and say no I can't do that I have been 15:08 saying a lot more NOS of late yeah 15:12 because I thought you know if I I need 15:13 to 15:14 sleep but I love the creative process I 15:17 mean I've got a wonderful project that 15:20 we decided to do two weeks ago which I 15:22 took on um and I can't say who with but 15:25 it's really exciting is I wrote this 15:28 track it was going to be a cover version 15:30 and then um one of my Engineers who also 15:35 produces with me some stuff he's been 15:37 working since the 80s and um decided I I 15:41 decided I don't give a cover version I 15:42 can I can write something you know I 15:44 prefer to write something 15:46 really so um I wrote this track and 15:49 presented it to this American Artist and 15:51 I'm not going to say who yet you know 15:53 now I'm testing so he's he's recording 15:56 it I think this week and and then we're 15:59 adding the music and stuff to it and 16:01 it's going to definitely come out I 16:03 because it's even in it's rawness it 16:06 sounds like oh my Lord like wow a 16:09 message song which is really when do you 16:11 think that'll be out then 16:15 um I think it could be before Christmas 16:18 but having said that uh I've just done a 16:21 a jazz album s meet Jaz I'm with um my 16:25 good friend blue Shar from Shak so we 16:28 had a number one with um take take me 16:31 back yeah and some soul charts and this 16:34 was earlier on the year and Brilliant 16:36 song that by the way love that thank you 16:38 thank you everybody's like saying oh we 16:40 love that song you know and we had Mark 16:43 King playing base on it and uh one of 16:45 the guys from me Forte was playing 16:47 guitar so um B was very connected in you 16:51 know in that musicality 16:52 and 16:54 Don brother davei express earlier this 16:58 year 16:59 yeah um and then we've got a new track 17:02 we're getting a very special mix done as 17:05 we speak but teas lots of teasers here 17:08 Lee I know the track is double dilemma 17:10 which is on the album because everybody 17:12 we like this track double dilemma and I 17:14 kind of wrote it during the lockdown 17:16 yeah so it's kind of dark but I I've 17:20 been trying to get certain mixes one we 17:22 did one mix it wasn't 100% yet but this 17:25 there's one that I'm thinking you know 17:26 what this person can do something so I'm 17:29 not gonna say who yeah can say who but I 17:34 don't I W say SP but um I'm also 17:40 On's oh Dennis L you 17:44 know he's in mumi he wrote City Games 17:48 Jan I'm on his album um he's doing a dub 17:51 album and I've done version of 17:57 um version of that really so so yeah I 18:01 mean for me it's it's I'm the kind of 18:05 artist if I feel I like to do it I will 18:06 do it you know it's not I'm not hell's 18:09 back because I was part of imagination 18:11 or anything like that I mean I did a 18:13 play last year which was written by Mike 18:15 Reed City of Dreams yeah which theater 18:18 for a month um it was a workshop and 18:21 then it it started like it was just 18:22 going to be just a workshop and we have 18:24 our script and just and then all of a 18:26 sudden we've got um 18:29 uh director on board who amazing raelle 18:33 am many them plays and music and once he 18:37 got on board everything changed so from 18:39 a workshop it went into complete the 18:41 actual production yeah you know the 18:43 clothes the lighting 18:45 the but it was wonderful because I 18:47 hadn't done that for a long time it's 18:49 like going back to college you 18:52 know so we did that and some some um I'm 18:55 hoping to do that again because it was a 18:57 very good experience and I like that 19:00 that 19:01 discipline of you know getting you know 19:05 learning script learning and being 19:07 another character as well you know so um 19:11 you find it hard to remember what you 19:12 meant to be doing though I mean I have a 19:13 terrible job with me memory off the time 19:15 I know when I was radio DJ and I used to 19:17 think hang on a minute I played this 19:18 song forgotten who it 19:20 is I know I'm I'm I'm a minute ago I was 19:23 talking I was thinking who's that you 19:25 know and I do I mean his names it's like 19:28 you know it's like um people said who 19:30 else have be collaborated I forget like 19:33 um like last week um was it last week 19:36 week before last last I see I think of 19:38 that I was with the the British 19:40 Collective who I did the album with as 19:42 well yeah and that um um Omar Junior 19:46 just film and Donnie and um we did um 19:50 Trevor Walter song which was a big S hit 19:53 for us not too long ago yeah lovely 19:56 tonight and uh with late 19:59 noord BL last year so um I went to see 20:03 them at piz Express and I haven't seen 20:05 them for a long while but something said 20:07 to me go down there and see voice you 20:10 know go down and they got me up on stage 20:12 and it was a lovely reunion you know but 20:15 I'm so everywhere that they can hardly 20:17 get hold of me so yeah are you an 20:20 organized person then or not would you 20:21 or you just I have to be I have to be to 20:23 do what I do and uh I management and 20:27 people that work with me 20:29 um because they know that I'm always on 20:30 the train so the situation is you have 20:32 to someone has to know what is le doing 20:35 yeah like I have to keep writing things 20:38 down I got paper everywhere yeah I was 20:42 talking to drama sort something out the 20:44 drama which is in my mind but you know I 20:47 think that when I I partition things so 20:49 therefore Monday we can do that Tuesday 20:52 we can do that let me get rid of 20:54 that um and then and you find you can 20:57 get through things you know 20:59 oh yeah I've got a that's another thing 21:01 I have a afre track and I can send it to 21:03 you it's called um music with um former 21:07 called Billy oan and he's very well 21:09 connected you know working with Serge 21:11 gainsburg yeah and this is very a ath 21:15 ath sort of track it's it's a it's very 21:18 different so that's out there and it's 21:20 in top 10 in the dance track in France 21:23 right now wow and very it's a very 21:25 colorful video it's a very afro Centric 21:29 to it but they sort of has an urban 21:31 sense the 12ish version I think a lot of 21:32 people like yeah you did a bit of house 21:35 and garage yourself didn't you in the 21:36 90s oh yeah um oh my goodness I I co 21:41 co-work with producing stuff for Club 69 21:43 P raw halfer um I wrote it gets much 21:47 better for them she diet TR I wrote ala 21:51 Baker I work with him I did do that with 21:53 tat Vega yeah that B love um mind body 21:57 and soul with 21:59 [Music] 22:00 um oh going to kill me 22:04 DJ MJ Co did a mix was number one in the 22:07 dance chart and everything and I think 22:10 kind of went National it's a 22:12 huge um UK garage hit yeah um mind body 22:17 and soul does that a change of a 22:18 direction then because did you just you 22:20 know take that you think oh hang on I'm 22:22 going to turn the page a little bit I'm 22:23 going to do that direction of music for 22:25 a bit how did that happen well basically 22:28 you know I did a i i produced a version 22:31 which was I did a jazz fun version I did 22:36 um a kind of a house dance version and 22:39 it was at that period where people doing 22:42 various different mixes it say at the 22:44 beginning of all that yeah and then you 22:47 know certain DJs you say no it won't 22:49 it's not going to play we won't play 22:50 this you know maybe you should try and 22:51 mix it back you know DJ fantasy that's 22:54 it right DJ fantasy said can't get your 22:56 vocal on really s and stuff said okay so 23:00 I sent it out and he did it and uh it 23:03 was it's it's there's a crowd of of 23:06 youngsters from the 90s and that's their 23:08 track right yeah get that don't you get 23:11 an epic track don't they all the time 23:14 and then after that I did a track for 23:16 the might Power of Love which is on 23:17 Freetown and that was like number one or 23:20 number two in the American Hot 100 was 23:23 huge because of the um LM LM Springstein 23:26 M swing mix and it's still big you know 23:30 power power 23:32 power and that became a really you know 23:35 like a classic you know dance house sort 23:37 of thing yeah and then I kind of Knocked 23:41 all that on the head for a while I did 23:43 actually I did do and someone reminded 23:46 me I did a version of sh's HS under 23:49 another name um that was shady they 23:53 called it and and Dan Dan dance you can 23:58 get online and um CU he like the um 24:04 hallelu so we did I did that I forgot I 24:07 did that you know and afterward I 24:10 knocked all out on the head and I went 24:11 to do my um my jazz album in rashell 24:15 which was a big turning point for me 24:17 which is what I always wanted to do and 24:20 we did sort of like a an Eclectic Jazz 24:22 aring through my soul which uh yeah I 24:25 had Dr John Watson who's been working 24:27 with me since the 24:29 80s um now and uh it was such a an 24:34 experience and next next year we spent 24:37 it's 20 years since we did w so special 24:42 we G do some special for shows as well 24:45 yeah time's I can't believe the time's 24:48 ramping on in it I know you're 24:50 busy um super interesting I could talk 24:53 all day um let's go back to the gig then 24:56 in Manchester what's the best way people 24:58 can get tickets for your gig then if you 25:00 go to ww. le.com there's a link on the 25:04 gig guide and you can get it there I 25:06 think it's on Ticket Master as well 25:08 right you know shows um that that's 25:11 where my memory grow goes sometimes I 25:13 think where am I performing oh the B 25:15 Manchester yeah Gro The Grove in in 25:18 Newcastle yeah in 25:21 Newcastle yeah that's the day after 25:23 isn't it that's the day after and I'm 25:25 probably GNA pop up a day or so before 25:28 uh to Manchester to do some more 25:30 interviews and some more prr stuff so I 25:32 like to do that and also I love to mix 25:36 with the the people and get a sense the 25:39 audience that I'm going to be performing 25:40 for so I tend to do that I don't just 25:43 rush there on the 25:45 day you know that's one of the things 25:47 now I kind of dance to The Temper of 25:51 what's good for me so therefore I'm not 25:53 killing myself you know makes no sense 25:56 so I try to make sure you know like I I 25:59 like sometime years ago we going to 26:00 towns and in the night and then you 26:03 leave in the morning and you don't see 26:05 anything you know the scheduling is 26:07 crazy so nowadays I say I want to get 26:11 there early day before so I can breathe 26:14 the city the town people The Experience 26:17 what they're into you know like the 26:19 fashion stuff and like the music stuff 26:21 so I I get a sense of everything and um 26:25 you know because I was saying to 26:26 somebody today this morning saying you 26:28 know Manchester is its own city newcast 26:31 is own City and you have to take them in 26:34 those in it's not like oh they're 26:36 relying on London or they've got a whole 26:40 combustion of things happening and activ 26:42 going so that's I like to read you know 26:45 yeah brilliant it's very diverse isn't 26:47 it the UK really me within the short 26:50 range of Miles 100 miles it's completely 26:51 different it is and the accent 26:57 too great accents yeah there is exactly 27:00 that's the thing the accents you yeah 27:01 it's been great CH to you anyway Lee I 27:03 wish you all the best for the tour and 27:04 everything and are you coming to the 27:06 show I'm coming to the show at 27:07 Manchester fantastic Street isn't it yes 27:11 that's right excent I like the bus of 27:14 Manchester it's just a hop on the train 27:16 from me it's like an hour or something 27:18 like that so it's great okay easy I hope 27:20 to see you then when I get there 27:22 excellent look forward to it thanks 27:24 again all the best speak again soon 27:27 maybe in the new year 27:28 yes for sure I'm take care bye cheers 

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